I installed the V2, and it does not work? Could it be bad?
Not likely, all V2 Boards are tested once at the end of the manufacturing process and again before we ship them.
How do you test the V2, the contacts on mine were clean with no sign of any soldering. How can you test it without wiring it up?
Great question. This is the purpose of the edgecard connector on the end of the V2 board. The V2 tester is simply a box with a stock XMOD receiver and MainBoard located inside it that interfaces with the edgecard connector on the V2. A standard radio is used to operate it so all functions can be replicated. We perform a forward, reverse and brake test on each and every V2 going out.
As a side note, the existence of the edgecard is one of the key differentiating factors of the V2 board. It allows us to test them very easily and reliably. Other aftermarket Turbo Boards either go untested, or have to be soldered up in order to test them.
OK, now that we have established that you sent me a working V2, what are my troubleshooting steps?
We have outlined some troubleshooting steps below. The first is for people with a
meter (which should be everyone) and the second is for the less fortunate modelers without one. The big advantage of having a meter in this case is that you can do most of the troubleshooting without removing the V2 from the car.
OK, I have a meter, how can I test the V2?
Step 1: First, check the power switch on the EP. You really should bypass the power switch.
If the switch is on, then move to the next step. If the switch was off, find the nearest person and ask them to slap you.
Step 2: Then try your Radio and both Crystals on another car to be sure they are fine.
If the radio and crystals are good, move to the next step. If not, we sell them on the site.
Step 3: Test your battery pack at the Micro plug. We should see anywhere from 6 to 8.4 volts depending on how well your pack is charged.
If you have below 6 volts, the pack is bad and must be replaced. If your meter shows between 6 and 8.4 volts you can assume the pack is working fine and move on to the next step.
Step 4: Connect the battery and test at terminals 6 and 7.
We should see the same reading we had in the previous step. If not, you have bad power connection.
Step 5: Using your meter, test across terminals 5 and 6.
We should see 6 volts here. This tells us that the voltage regulation circuit is working. If we see 3 volts here, you either have a dead Lithium pack, or are running four AAA cells. If you are running four AAA cells, you don't need the voltage regulation, so wire your EP directly to the batteries.
Step 6: Disconnect the batteries. Turn the servo to one side and connect the batteries.
If your servo centers then we know we are getting power into the EP. If not, then test your power input wires at the EP, if we are not getting power there then we have a bad connection between the EP and the V2. It could be the wiring or it could be a bad trace on the V2 board. A bad trace can be fixed by soldering the connectors together on the edgecard. See the picture and explanation in a question below.
Step 7: Test at terminals 3 and 4 with your meter to see if your EP is outputting a signal.
You should get 6 volts in forward and 4.3 volts in reverse. If not, do the same test at the board, you should get the same readings mentioned already. If you get them at the EP but not at the V2, you again have a bad connection between the two.
Step 8: Using your
test leads, apply power to the motor terminals.
If it does not spin you have a fried motor. We recommend the Atomic motors as they run much cooler than most. If the motor spins then the V2 is fried and you will need to do a
V2 Swap.
OK, I'm a lamer without a meter, how do I test the V2?
Step 1: First, check the power switch on the EP. You really should bypass the power switch.
If the switch is on, then move to the next step. If the switch was off, find the nearest person and ask them to slap you.
Step 2: Then try your Radio and both Crystals on another car to be sure they are fine.
If the radio and crystals are good, move to the next step. If not, we sell them on the site.
Step 3: Get a different motor (preferably stock) and connect it to a battery of any type to make sure it works and then connect it to the V2 motor output.
If this works, you had a bad motor. If not proceed to the next step.
Step 4: Remove the V2 and see if the EP works fine without it.
If the EP does not work, replace the EP. If it does, move to the next step.
Step 5: Test the contact points (see below) to make sure they are all intact.
If the traces are intact, move to the next step, if they are bad, see the question below on how to fix damaged traces.
Step 6: Connect the V2 again and pay close attention to your wiring.
If this works, consider yourself lucky, because you had a problem in the wiring that was not fatal to the V2. If it does not work, you had a fatal wiring problem and will need to do a
V2 Swap.
How do I test the contact points?
Using your
meter set on continuity (you have a meter right?) test the contacts on each side of the board and make sure they connect to one another. Test 1 to 1, 2 to 2, and so forth.
The center 4 that connect back to the EP are the typical culprit. These are sometimes damaged from sloppy soldering. The large ones never fail.
It seems that I damaged the small center traces that connect to the electronics package. Is the V2 board worthless, or can it be fixed?
There is an easy workaround. You simply use the edgecard connector to make the same connections. Above is a map of the connections. The center connections are the only ones that you can do this with since they pull little current.
I was looking at the V2 Contact Map Above and saw a mistake. You have 6 connected to the EP Power Supply Negative as well as the V2 Battery Input.
Does your mom know you are sniffing glue? Those are the grounds dude.
My V2 doesn't work, what are my replacement options?
We know every V2 is good because they are tested before we ship them, so something in the installation process must have gone wrong. A V2 is very difficult to fry so first check your wiring and if you still think it is a bad board you can use the
"No Questions Asked V2 Swap" on the electronics page. Most issues are related to binding which creates severe current draw.
I have PN Racing S03 (11 tooth) with the 7850 mAh Lithium's on an XMOD Gen1 and the V2 board. The thing is like a rocket sled, but after about 7-10 minutes it slows down until I wait a while, then it runs like mad again, what causes this?
Its simple, your motor is overheating, and if you aren't careful you will burn it up. You are dumping a ton of current into the motor which it converts to power and what doesn't get converted directly into usable power gets burned off in the form of heat. The 11 tooth pinion makes it worse because it loads the motor up more at takeoff, you won't likely get the car up to its top speed (about 35MPH with this config) on any track you may be racing. A better choice would be a lower pinion like an 8 or 9 tooth. While a lower gear pinion will help, cooling needs to be improved. XMODs have poor cooling, as they were not designed for the fire breathing drive systems we are putting in them. If you try the car with the body off you should see the problem greatly reduced or dissapear altogether. Cutting the windows out will help drastically. It is important to monitor the temperature of your motor and batteries as well. Give the car time to cool between runs. If you can't wait, buy a second car. I bring at least 3 cars to the track.
I notice my batteries are getting warm with the V2 and they never did that before, is something wrong.
Nothing is wrong, its just the V2 eliminating the power bottleneck and allowing every bit of current that the batteries can supply to flow into the motor. This will cause them to run hotter. As long as you don't drive like a madman constantly, it should not be much of a problem, but if you have a lead finger, you can damage the cells with excessive heat.
After I installed my V2 and switched on the car, it ran full speed. When I pushed the trigger in reverse, it slowed down but did not stop. Steering worked fine but, I am not sure what has happened. Can you offer me some suggestions?
You reversed the small board power supply wires and the motor wires. These are the 4 small wires in the center.
My V2 ran perfectly until I put the body on, as soon as I gassed, it fried. What happened?
The V2 has circuit traces on the bottom that are very close to the motor wires. With enough downward pressure on the board it can press these into the motor wires creating a short. To avoid this use a small strip of sufficiently thick tape under the board just above the motor to insulate the traces.
I cooked my motor after 10 minutes of hard running with the new 780 mAh cells and the V2. I put another Stage2 in and the same thing happened again. What am I doing wrong?
The V2 is very efficient and delivers every bit of current that the batteries can deliver, and with the new 780 mAh cells this a powerful combination. You will get extreme performance, but more current also develops more heat. Nothing is wrong, its just the V2 doing its job. You simply need to monitor motor temperatures and allow cooling time.
How can I make the motor run cooler?
First thing is choose a cool running motor. We have found the
Atomic Motors to be the coolest running on the market because of the open can design. Also use of a
Motor Cooler Fan will generally tame the hottest running motors. Another alternative is to cut out the windows.
I need "XYZ" component for the V2 board, can I buy just that part from you?
Sorry, I don't stock parts for the V2 as the construction of these is outsourced. The
"No Questions Asked V2 Swap" is your best remedy.